18:12 hmm, I can see some stuff on github regarding the toolbox and nvidia so I will try that. Getting brave to work natively on silverblue is a really big deal for me. I don't want to sell my soul to google while firefox just isn't in the game anymore :( 18:13 otaylor: JayDoubleu: You do have access to the host's entire /dev inside the toolbox. Access to the /dev/dri device was enough to get the "OpenGL Area" example in gtk3-demo to work. 18:13 If you need the proprietary NVIDIA drivers then that's more tricky, but should be doable. 18:14 JayDoubleu: You know, firefox *does* work just fine 18:14 With brave install on rpm-ostree there is a few issues btw. First is the gpgcheck has to be set to 0 but I can live with that. Second is that it requires the "at" to be installed by rpm-ostree before installing brave. Third, it still fails after installing at and I have no idea how to fix :( https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nIOQm4Nb/ 18:14 Well, firefox does work. So is 30yo car. I want ferrari ;P 18:15 JayDoubleu: wow, they were doing multithreaded layout and rendering in rust 30 years ago? 18:16 I typically only use chrome to make sure some web site oddity isn't some sort of chrome-dependency, and 98% of the time, it's not 18:16 rishi: well with nvidia there is a pain on silverblue described here: https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/106 but that aside, I will try what's described here https://github.com/containers/toolbox/issues/116 18:18 otaylor: well I'm using chrome for things like stadia and web apps installed there without any adblocks. Brave is my daily driver, taking to consideration the number of spying going on on the web. I know firefox is FINE but there is a reason why chromium based browsers are the fastest and support the latest and greatest... I shall rather say, you can have a new FIAT, but I want Ferrari ;) 18:19 JayDoubleu: I still think you are short-selling Firefox, but I support you using whatever browser on Silverblue you like! 18:19 rishi: unless I will have to modify the core of toolbox to make gpu work, then I am back to square one ... can't edit toolbox cause silverblue is immutable ... 18:21 otaylor: well, I get that Firefox is a good browser, I like their containers etc but its just something missing there. I mean brave browser creator was a CEO of Mozilla and yet still did not base brave on firefox.. Why ? 18:23 JayDoubleu: for a long time, Firefox has not been friendly to embedding it's render engine - there's probably some intent to change that with the announced move of servo to linux foundation sponsorship 18:24 (leaving aside any speculation about relationships between Eich and mozilla developers) 18:25 otaylor: to be honest... Once they catch-up with chromium based.. I am switching the very day they do. Firefox does feel a little bit like Gnome, it was great but buggy until they got proper cash injection and more focus in single direction and now Gnome isn't buggy any more (I was almost loosing hope for gnome at some point). I wish the same to Firefox 18:27 Mozilla is still in the middle of quite heavy refactoring anyway. I do hope they keep having sufficient developer capacity to actually pull it off. It will be interesting to see how much of the browser will finally be written in Rust 18:27 That is, refactoring of Firefox 18:27 tbh, the entire RedHat could use a little bit of "fresh" as its a bit rusty. I would love to see more community support for flatpak and desktop etc. (I have some hopes with it after *recent announcements ) 18:28 JayDoubleu: there are ferrari's still running that are older than 30 yr. Also their best was arguably the 250gt which is what 40 yro. ;) 18:28 * otaylor gets out the WD-40 and sprays himself off 18:28 otaylor++ 18:28 thats for the laugh 18:30 :)